They are okay. They are
"They are okay. They are comfortable enough, but I am not impressed, and in hindsight, the crossover is a pain because I am having to undo two buttons to get them on and off, and the inner button is tricky to undo, as the hole seems too small for the button. They sit a little higher than expected. Not crazy about the giant Mavi label on the outside between the belt loops, will be carefully removing that (looks like a price tag I forgot to remove, but it’s the brand label) Knowing what I know now after owning them, I would not have bought these."